Wall Street Losses Continue on Recession Worries

    Posted 4:00PM 08/19/11
    A growing belief that the country is headed toward recession gave the stock market its fourth straight week of losses.

    The anxiety in the market was obvious Friday as the major indexes went from modest gains early in the day to another sharp loss. The Dow Jones industrial average had its 10th move of more than 100 points this month.

    "We just don't know whether we're going to have a recession," said John Burke, head of Burke Financial Strategies.

    Investors began the week on a more confident note after last week's volatility, the worst the market has had since the 2008 financial crisis. The Dow rose nearly 215 points on Monday when Google, Time Warner Cable and Cargill were among companies announcing multi-billion deals. The market remained relatively calm the next two days. But on Thursday, a stream of bad economic news in the U.S. combined with worries about Europe's debt problems and sent the Dow down 419 points.

    On Friday, there was little news to help investors determine their next moves. And some traders did not want to take the chance of holding stocks if bad news came out of Europe over the weekend. So they began selling during the afternoon. European investors were also cautious - banking stocks fell near two-and-a-half-year lows, dragged down by rumors about banks' potential losses on bonds issued by heavily-indebted governments.

    "These things usually break out over the weekend and then you have a mad dash Monday to react to them," said Mike McGervey, the head of McGervey Wealth Management.

    The drop late in the day recalled the 2008 financial crisis. Then, many investors stepped up their selling on Friday afternoons out of fears that another bank might fail over the weekend - as Lehman Brothers did on Sunday, Sept. 15.

    The Dow lost 172.93, or 1.6 percent, and closed at 10,817.65. It was down 4 percent for the week. Since July 21, right before the market began its plunge, the Dow is down 15 percent.

    The Standard & Poor's 500 stock index fell 17.12, or 1.5 percent, to 1,123.53. It was down 4.7 percent for the week. The Nasdaq composite fell 38.59, or 1.6 percent, to 2,341.84. It was down 6.6 percent for the week.

    Although stocks fell, investors did not seek the safety of Treasurys, as they have the last three weeks. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note rose to 2.07 percent from late Thursday's 2.06 percent. It had been up to 2.11 percent earlier in the day. The yield fell below 2 percent Thursday for the first time as heavy demand sent its price sharply higher.

    Since July 21, the market has gone from one crisis to another, and the weakening U.S. economy has been at the heart of the selling. In late July, the concern was the debt debate going on in Washington. In early August, it was the downgrade of the U.S. debt rating by Standard & Poor's. Since then, worries about the impact of the downgrade have faded, and the growing evidence that the economy is slowing has driven stocks down.

    Signs of a slower economy around the world have only made investors more pessimistic about the U.S. Earlier this week, Germany said its economy grew at just 1.3 percent in the second quarter. And Germany is the strongest economy in Europe.

    Stocks fell Thursday on news of another drop in home sales, weaker manufacturing in the mid-Atlantic states and an increase in the number of people who applied for unemployment benefits.

    The stock market tends to reflect the expectations that investors have for the economy and company earnings six to nine months in the future. So traders are interpreting the numbers they're seeing as part of a slide that will continue for some time.

    On Friday, JPMorgan Chase & Co. joined other financial firms and cut its forecast for economic growth during the fourth quarter. It's now predicting growth of 1 percent, down from an earlier forecast of 2.5 percent. That added to the recession fears.

    A recession is traditionally thought of as two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth, measured by a country's gross domestic product. With expectations of growth in the U.S. already low, investors worry that the economy can't withstand another unexpected event like the earthquake in Japan or the string of bad weather that ravaged the South earlier this year.

    JPMorgan analyst Michael Feroli said business confidence, household wealth and global growth all look worse than just a few weeks earlier. That will keep economic growth nearly flat in the first quarter of 2012, he said.

    Next week is likely to bring more volatility. On Friday, the government will give its second estimate of how the economy did during the second quarter. It said a month ago that the GDP grew at just 1.3 percent during the quarter. Economists expect the government to announce a lower reading: 1.1 percent. The GDP report in late July contributed to the market's heavy losses. So did the government's revised estimate for the first quarter: 0.4 percent.

    Next Friday also brings the Federal Reserve's annual retreat at Jackson Hole, Wyo. It was a year ago at Jackson Hole that Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke hinted that the central bank would begin buying $600 billion in Treasurys to stimulate the economy. The buying ended June 30. Now investors want to know if the Fed will act again.

    But some analysts think that the U.S. economy will continue to grow on its own, albeit slowly.

    "The market is thinking that we're going into a recession, but the data is telling you that we're not," said Jonathan Golub, chief U.S. market strategist for UBS. He pointed to an increase Thursday in an index of economic leading indicators that suggested the economy is expanding slowly.

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    savemycountry911

    Go to the Net, not Fox and you'll see that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party. The left doesn't care since most of them are Communists.

    August 20 2011 at 9:38 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
    WILLS

    The pundits, analysts and economists are all worried about a recession? My question is - where have you been for last three years? A recession is two quarters of negative growth? What is 10% unemployment. What is 46 millions people on food stamps? What is government, Federal, State, County and local with severe budget problems? I guess that I am dumb and so is the rest of the public that can easily identify that "problems abound". For all of you geniuses - WE HAVE BEEN IN A RECESSION ENVIRONMENT FOR 3 YEARS AND IT MATTERS LITTLE IF IT IS A "LITTLE BIT" OR A "BIG BIT" - IT'S STILL A RECESSION. If anything, it now appears that we may well make DEPRESSION status and I am sure that if the U.S. reaches this point it will be called a RECESSION.

    I love statistical reporting. Inflation? Is it "core", or is it inflation. We are getting the same thing over and over and it's all B.S. which I am sure is interpreted as "buy stock". I, and the rest of this country have a different meaning.

    August 20 2011 at 9:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Iselin007

    Why they wait so long to worry didn't they think 8 million unemployed was a disaster? Did they think the fraud in the housing related fields and Banks was going to create a real economy? Contruction of homes few could afford and big box stores filled with imported garbage was their answer to the outsourcing of skilled jobs?

    August 20 2011 at 9:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Iselin007

    Who you kidding they ought to let the school students see the historical labor reports so they know history is scary!

    August 20 2011 at 8:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Iselin007

    Just think how many millions were trying to enter the workforce while others were being convienently erased from the workforce to lower the reported U-3 unemployment rate of over 10%. Their going help the long term unemployed they say in September 2011 or talk about some more when they need to eat yesterday! They must figuren we'll all be gone and they wobn't have to interupt their Lobster Dinners!

    August 20 2011 at 8:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Iselin007

    In Dec 2008 there were 11,344,000 unemployed and in Jan 2009 over 11,984,000 unemployed because the NAFTA and China Deals stink like garbage!

    There were 154,669,000 in the work force in Dec 2008 that’s now down to 253,228,000 in Jul 2011 but they have to count illegal’s and any one in a home working even non paid because outsourcing made recoveries impossible!

    August 20 2011 at 8:46 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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    WILLS

    It's deeper than you imagine. All of the "outsourcing" built foreign economies, but it will eventually destroy ours.
    U.S. business cowtows to Wall St. and expected profit and this mentality will prove a disaster.

    August 20 2011 at 9:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    dad

    Yeah,people are going to cash and to bonds!! Whatever you keynesian dumb asses in the media do,DON'T mention gold or silver in your commentary!!You still don't have a clue,do you?Only in America!!

    August 20 2011 at 8:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Sean Hank

    The banks have been lending to the consumer instead of the businesses. This is part of the banks troubles now.

    In the past, the banks used to hold their money mostly in US treasuries. That is why in past crisis they could remain solvent even if other assets lost their value. Their US debt would still be secure. Loans to consumers are backed by an asset such as an house. Today the banking industry is invested 95% in consumer loans and mortgages. This is why the banks were insolevent when the housing market collapsed and required a bank bailout.

    The loans made to consumers are non-self liquidating. The consumer consumes. The consumer does not create value. Their ability to pay mainly depends on their job. Consumer loans are not put to use to create new value in the economy. On the other hand, loans to businesses are used to produce new value, to employ people, and to earn money so that the debt can be paid. These are self liquidating loans. And we have very little of them left now.

    This is going to be a deflationary crash, just like Great Depression.

    http://www.tradingstocks.net/html/prepare_for_market_crash.html

    August 20 2011 at 5:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
    Elvis

    The american Government needs to be overthrown! They max out what they can borrow & what do they do? Give them more money?? Obviously America will be heading for Bankruptcy!

    August 20 2011 at 3:35 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
    Erica Stone

    There has to be end to the disappearing middle class. WE WANT OUR SHARE OF THE WEALTH. Take a minute to look at the destruction of this country and it will amaze you.

    When a few hundred control more wealth THAN 300,000,000, then you HAVE A PROBLEM.

    IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE and there is a way to get it!

    Google the term "Simple Stock Cash" and click on the Top ranked site! Go to the Penny' Stock section to find out what the rich do not want you to know.

    We all need to understand that there are ways to make a ton in this market just like the rich are doing.

    August 20 2011 at 2:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply