A big step forward for extending -- and expanding -- the homebuyer tax credit
Filed under: Economy
Good news appears to be coming for supporters of the homebuyer tax credit. Senate negotiators reached a tentative deal to not only extend the $8,000 tax credit to first-time buyers but also to give other primary home purchasers a $6,500 credit. If the Senate actually passes the bill, the House, where over two dozen versions are floating around, may finally decide to act. But IRS reports of fraud and lukewarm support of the Obama administration seem to have stalled the bill on the House side. So, it could just agree to take up the Senate bill after it passes the Senate to move the legislation quickly to Obama's desk.
The White House doesn't fully support the extension and expansion because it's concerned about the cost and adding to the deficit. Housing & Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan took the lead in the fight against the credit to the Senate Banking Committee. He noted that while the measure is popular, he questioned whether it's worth the cost. At the same time he was questioning the tax credit, the White House also had the Treasury Department raising issues about fraud through testimony by the IRS.
Industry experts believe that if the tax credit is not extended housing demand will take a hit and home sales likely will drop. Some are skeptical and point to the negative report that new home sales in September 2009 fell 3.6 percent from August 2009 and 7.8 percent from September 2008. Resales, however, didn't see the same drop. Resale deals are better right now because of all the foreclosures and short sales still available.
Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Economy.com, supports the extension. He wrote in June, "Based on simulations of the Moody's Economy.com macro model, the expanded tax credit, if extended through the end of 2010, would increase 2010 sales by almost 600,000. This in turn would generate $33 billion in additional real GDP, lifting growth in 2010 by about 25 basis points." In addition, he said, "Benefits would flow to a range of hard-pressed industries, including mortgage lenders, real estate firms, insurance companies, property maintenance and repair businesses, and building supply retailers."
While the extension as now written wouldn't go through the end of 2010 as Zandi suggested, buyers with contracts in hand by April 30 and closed by June 30 could use it. First-time homebuyers would get an $8,000 credit, and some existing homeowners would get a new credit of $6,500. To qualify, existing homeowners would need to have been in their current residence for a consecutive five-year period in the past eight years. The Senate also raised the qualifying income limits to $125,000 for single taxpayers and $250,000 for joint taxpayers. The Senate doesn't want to make the credit available to investors but does want to help move-up buyers.
Key details still need to be worked out with the IRS to be sure the tax agency will have the tools it will need to prevent fraudulent use of the credits. House Ways & Means Chairman John Lewis will need to be assured that the IRS can identify fraud before he supports the extension.
While no plan can be ironclad in all matters, arguments such as Zandi's seem most likely win out eventually.
Lita Epstein has written more than 25 books including The 250 Questions You Should Ask About Buying Foreclosures.



























Reader Comments (Page 1 of 5)
10-29-2009 @ 10:16AM
frank p said...
Shaun Donavan is male.
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10-29-2009 @ 11:56AM
brad said...
I hope they change this version so if you buy a house of a relative you can get the credit.As of now even if you buy a house at fair market value from a relative you do not qualify for the tax credit.
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10-29-2009 @ 5:18PM
jon said...
Brad....Have u filed and been turned down? I just bought my house from my mother and paid a little more then it is even worth. The tax paper says "acquire" not purchase from a relative. I have been told it just depends on the IRS agent who looks at my request.....
10-29-2009 @ 11:16PM
John said...
So Obama is worried that the housing credit that people could really use is going to increase the deficit, but not worried about increasing the deficit by trillions with bailouts, stimulus pork packages, and insanely expensive Obamacare?
10-29-2009 @ 12:31PM
Unemployed said...
Where is the HELP for the UNEMPLOYED homeowner who lost their jobs to keep the banks from foreclosing on us???????????????????? Its time for Washington to help those who REALLY need it!!!!!!!! NOW not weeks or months from now! When can we expect the help we DESERVE!
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10-29-2009 @ 2:25PM
lou said...
Unemployed: You are so right. Notice who they said this tax credit would help-- mortgage lenders, real estate firms, insurance companies. Insurance companies are bleeding us all dry, and wasn't it the mortgage lenders and the real estate firms that got us into this mess in the first place? Why do they need help? They should have made a bundle the last time they swindled the American people to last them forever. Here we go for round two of the housing bubble and then bust nonsense. Good luck to you, though, I hope you can make it through and keep your home.
10-29-2009 @ 3:13PM
david50now said...
there is no help for us. they congress can't even pass a bill to extend UI benefits without a bunch of repuks 13 to be exact voting agaisnt it. i may have gotten lucky if the paper work goes through that i signed today to sell my house. just to protect my credit i sold my house at a lose and had to give the buyer $7000 at closing. thank God i had the smarts to stay in my conventinal loan and not live high on the hog by takeing money from my equity. when all is done i hope to get $311 out of my house after 6 years. SO as to the rest of you on here and( i don't mean you UNEMPLOYED) i am unemployed as well..... quit your belly aching get off your duffs e-mail your legislators and tell them where there screwing up. Or kick back and enjoy the life that they have given us
10-30-2009 @ 1:23AM
AL said...
Ummm...Help you how? Your unemployed! That translates into no payments. Are you serious? Let's see, no ability to pay a loan back. Sorry but I'm assuming that you expect us to pay your house payment eh? I'm already taking care of to many deadbeats, they are called welfare rats. You know, the kind that have no problem sucking off of us and refuse to work? I'm sure you comprehend what I mean? Maybe you need to sell your house, and go rent. Oh, that's right, no payment there either. Geez. Maybe you can live with relatives? Oh, that's right, they expect you to help with the bills eh? Guess they won't let you stiff them, but it's okay to stiff me? NOT!
10-30-2009 @ 11:15AM
JIM said...
Unemployed,
Fight your foreclosure. The foreclosing institution must prove they OWN the mortgage in court. They MUST "produce the note" and not a copy. Check your county records to see who/whm is the recorded mortgage holder. If the listed mortgage holder is not who/whom is foreclosing, then your note was sold. Also, your county LOST tax monies from no recording of DOC STAMPS. Call your county commission and tell them they are losing tax dollars and these tax dollars are not from citizen's pockets.
http://www.consumerwarningnetwork.com/2008/06/19/produce-the-note-how-to/
10-30-2009 @ 11:54AM
Davie01 said...
I could not agree more and I am mad as Hell!!!! I am a 45-year-old Construction MRG. And have been unemployed for over a year. Unemployment helps but my family and I are sinking.
What help do I get??? I cannot refy with out a job, even though it will save me $700 month, plus pay off my truck. Wow, that would buy me some time, no brainer right. Wrong, I have tried to refinance with half dozen banks and even my current one, but they all stated some new banking rule(s) prevent them to refinance my home, which I have been in for 13 years and have excellent credit. I even had a co-borrower, still declined. I can pay my bills now, just think how much better it would be if I could save $700 a month. I guess since this makes perfectly good sense to the working class people I talk to, it must mean the bankers/ lenders, Wall Street and our elected officials do not understand that logic. I guess when I default then the taxpayer can bail me out. Oh, by the way unemployment is considered income when I apply for ANY public assistance programs. At which time I do not qualify for that help. But when I try to refinance it is not considered income????
10-29-2009 @ 1:31PM
bob said...
they dont let you sale to your relative and get the tax credit because of the fraud issue
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10-29-2009 @ 2:06PM
John said...
We need to take all this stimulus money from our congressmen in the form of their money and alltheir property.
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10-29-2009 @ 2:13PM
DGRANT said...
they keep changing the rules. i own a house and bought a new house this year. i was told i could not get hte credit because i had not sold my old house, i am renting it because who can sell a house today. now if i want to get the new 6500 dollar credit i should have lived in my house for 5 years. it seems to me that i am stimulating the market by buying a new house, i did not want to keep my old one but i had no choice.
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10-29-2009 @ 2:51PM
david50now said...
you are leaving out too much info. on your situation. your choice to keep your old house is not realivant. apprently you were able to secure financing for the new one so what is your problem . you feel as though you as a multiple housing owner should be given a tax credit. what then you parlay that money into a 3rd property. you need to get a life as a matter of fact how can you even be buying a second home knowing that the housing market is as bad as it is and you wouldn't be able to jerk the money you need out of the old one . i suspect you are playing the market at the exspense of those that truly need the tax credit. quit your belly aching and count yourself lucky you haven't lost your home like the millions that have and also the ones that tryed to protect their credit by selling their homes for what they owed after years of paying for them only to be caught in an unemployment situation with so many forclosures that drove the price down. yeah you stimulated the econemy alright who do you think you really helped THE BANKS
10-29-2009 @ 2:50PM
frogurt said...
This is laughable. A very small percentage of people will be able to use this tax credit because of the economy being the way it is, but the administration presents themselves as heroes by helping us "poor folk" with their generosity with our own tax money. Let's see, $8,000 tax credit if you can come up with the 20% down payment on a home. I got that right here in my wallet, don't you?
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10-29-2009 @ 4:30PM
dlmrealtor said...
You are wrong about the 20% down. There are still 100% government financing programs out there. And yes this tax credit is helping the housing market. A lot of first time home buyers are purchasing homes because of this incentive. I know this because I am a realtor and most of the customers I work with are first time home buyers.
10-29-2009 @ 5:35PM
K said...
The $8k credit is to be used for the down payment and closing costs and this is/was the purpose of the credit. The rule is 10% of the purchase price or $8k whichever is the LOWEST as the rebate. That is an $8k down payment or you can put that $8k into a second at a low interest rate for repairs to a re-hab. The $6.5k is for those who have lived in their homes for 3 to 5 years can't recall but that is to keep those from selling their homes. The accountant might be able to count the last 3 to 5 years if you are unemployed since it doesn't mention you do have to be actually employed. If there is an unpaid tax for instance then it could be applied to that I would think if you have a good accountant/JD. What this is telling me is that prices are going to erode further with increasing interest rates coming.
10-29-2009 @ 2:29PM
Teresa said...
All these tax credits and stimulus programs are only helping people who ALREADY have money to begin with! Think about it. In order to be eligible for the "cash for clunkers" program, you had to be able to BUY a car in the first place ... meaning that you needed good credit for approval and enough money to pay the monthly payment for the new car and possibly a down payment. How many single moms working at McD's for $7.75 an hour have all of the above? Not many ... and yet they probably need that new car just as much as anyone else. What about the $8,000 new home credit? Gotta have all of the above for that one too! Poor people who need the "break" don't get it. Plus, I saw a news article on tv the other day that says people can get up to $6,000 back for the purchase of a new LSV (low speed vehicle ... otherwise known as a souped up "road worthy" golf cart). How many of those do you see "in the hood"? None! They are all in Florida in rich old people's communities. How about some incentives that help POOR PEOPLE!!!!
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10-30-2009 @ 4:29PM
Ricardo Santana said...
This country was not built to help poor people. Unfortunately, for you. Its driven for those who have marginal success (the middle class). That's so capitalism could work. If not there would be revolution every 20 or so years. The 1% controls the masses and the money. I am not a marxist. I am just striving like everyone else here to become part of the 1%, lol.
10-29-2009 @ 2:29PM
JDS said...
I personally don't think that it is fair when I bought a new house in 2008 and got the up to $7500 tax credit that I HAVE to pay back when this new $8000 tax credit came out and they don't have to. They should go back and make the up to $7500 tax credit to where there is NO REPAYMENT REQUIRED. I am hurting just as much as everybody else and it should be fair to all Americans. This goverment has made no sense for years.
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